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Anyone tried this stuff yet, looks like it is quite rigid in filament form and perhaps more suitable than ninjaflex?
http://www.shop.3dfilaprint.com/porolay-lay-fomm-60-filament-250gms-854-p.asp
I really like that claim: All the components of LAY-FOMM 60 are harmless and food safe
java (EE), JavaFX, HTML, GIS) programmer, database wizard, framework inventor, looking for a job ! http://roboxing.com/wizardsLay-Fomm sample has arrived . . looks extremely promising, it has similar rigidity to standard PLA, so should hopefully feed down the Bowden tube ok so long as its not too brittle.
Sample of Lay-Gel also arrived and its the same as Lay-Fomm in stiffness.
Looking forward to trying them out when the ‘box has returned from Cel!
Here’s the manufacturers video on it:
AnonymousI’ll be very interested in your report on what is like to print with, but also how soft, flexible and strong it is after immersing it in water. This type of filament might be the only flexible one we can print with using the Robox.
Not that I’m ever likely to print anything with the Robox. It arrived back after two months (of being broken), broken on delivery! You couldn’t make it up. Still not had the parts sent from CEL.
Starting to look around desperately for another printer that actually works…
Sorry to hear that @biscuitlad, I think you’ve probably had the roughest deal of all the KS backers given your beta stresses too! You’ve probably already seen it but I was really impressed with the Z-Morph at the TCT show recently, http://zmorph3d.com/toolheads/ ,a 3d printer with multiple attachments available for it already, milling/laser engraving.
Anyways I’ll keep the thread going with some more info when it returns, great if the material works but I doubt it has anywhere near the durability of ninjaflex. seems quite a niche material given its porosity . . . . . we’ll see!
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Oh no sorry to hear that. What was broken on it?
AnonymousThe plastic hexagon nut on the left hand threaded rod was broken, meaning Z-axis failure. They were supposed to have sent a replacement mid week but it never arrived. And the instructions for refitting are verging on the ridiculous. I have to “pad” one of the lower nuts out on three sides with super glue by sticking it into the plastic hexagon nut and then breaking the bond once it’s on the threaded rod. It’s to counter backlash apparently. I kid you not. British bodging at it’s finest!
Yes, I’ve been looking at the zmorph, but there seems to be so little information about it. No reviews, hardly any pictures of good prints (sound familiar?!). What there is looks impressive. Did you see any prints it had done?
hmm guess that’s something all the betas need to do with the upgraded parts then, we shall see.
They had a coupe of units merrily printing away, looked good quality but I have no idea how reliable/repeatable it would be. It seemed like a well engineered piece of kit and I think it can use a number of different slicing engines. Guess it should be more reliable from an early stage without the nozzle control headaches.
Blimey, thought I’d done an ok job at installing the beta upgrade parts but reading this I’m not so sure now! good luck with it!
Come on - alternative is to pass the printer to CEL and wait for them to do the same. I don’t think it is way to hard… Just put an hour spare and give it a go! Look at it as a shortcut, an adventure…
It is not fair completely slagging them for giving you too detailed description. It (the description) could have been very short and concise omitting some ‘understood’ parts. If something goes wrong - there’s still option for you to send it to them and ask them to fix it…And, there’s always an alternative: just write a letter saying that you can’t do that and that you would rather have another printer (that works) instead. Why not?!
@biscuitlad “…there is no chance of getting another printer. Absolutely no chance, I’ve tried in the past. They just refuse.”
Oops…
“I don’t need any lectures about how to be positive or grateful with respect to CEL or their printer.”
Definitively not.
But, I look it form this perspective:
a) if you don’t want to go through lengthy and convoluted fix, that’s fair enough - it should be done by manufacturer
b) if you believe printer is faulty - ask for replacement
c) if you don’t get replacement and you are unhappy with current situation - ask for money back
Simple as that. If none can be sorted - then there are ways of finding who is wrong and who isn’t. If printer is not ‘fit for purpose’ then I can’t see it being your fault.
Fortunately mine has only minor issue which I can live with (at the moment).
But you can still look it from positive side: there’s a chance that after you go through this fix it might, at last, be stable enough for you to print at the quality others are printing…
(I was deliberate not to describe the quality ;))
Mind you - last 4-5 prints (and they were bigger look here - oh - I forgot to upload pics of ‘black’ samples reel, I’ll do it tonight) came out quite alright for me. There is still hope for Robox… And if that fails - I still have a ‘backup’ solution, let me know if you’re interested…
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