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This is an ongoing test, it may be changed as we test further. Please make you own suggestions below, I will update the table as we get more info.
See the table here
http://www.cel-robox.com/materials/
For official support please visit www.cel-robox.com/support/ and create a ticketAlloy 910 works well with PolySupport. It may bond a little too well in places, but it can be pulled out. It works well with TitanX also.
I operate two Betas and four Production Robox.
I am the US/Canada Technical Support engineer for the Robox.
www.hudsondesignlabs.comt-glase works well with PolySupport. Just printed an order with 5 items needing support. Came away as good as PLA or ABS.
STEELMANS 3D PRINT.
3D Hub: www.3dhubs.com/service/steelmans
Website: www.steelmans3d.comI’ve been using PolyFlex with PolySupport over Christmas and results have been good. It doesn’t come away like PLA or ABS but if you use a small (almost solid) support spacing its a bit like pealing an orange. If other words it is trying to stick slightly but can be removed cleanly. This is a another good argument for solid/dense interface layers for support.
Also I would like to suggest PolyFlex for the first flexible material on SmartReel. It prints beautifully with no slipping or problems. I’m not sure how well any flexible material will roll off a smartreel but maybe the smaller reel might help? I’m happy to help with any further testing if needed.
STEELMANS 3D PRINT.
3D Hub: www.3dhubs.com/service/steelmans
Website: www.steelmans3d.comJust to add to this, I have printed with CO-PET (ColorFABB nGen) as model material and HIPS as support with success. The HIPS actually sticks a perfect amount to the nGen. Its difficult enough to pull off that it won’t fall off and the nGen sticks to it, but as soon as you get a corner or something loose it peels right off. It seems the shear is needed to separate them, but they come apart very easily once separation starts.
Edit: I would also like to agree with @simonhoult about solid interface layers for the last layer or 2 of support before the model starts. This is a feature we are highly interested in.
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David.
Another interesting support couple is XT and FlexFill. I use ZenToolworks flex instead of the actual flexfill, but it is similar. The two materials bond well enough when printed smooth surfaces together, but use XT with a tight grid pattern for support for FlexFill and you get an easy to remove support with decent material support. The Flexfill takes the texture of the support material but this can be an advantage if you want a textured surface.
I operate two Betas and four Production Robox.
I am the US/Canada Technical Support engineer for the Robox.
www.hudsondesignlabs.comHi,
Somebody has maybe idea what can be used as a support for Nylon filament? I tested t-glase with Nylon it works quite well I mean it does not stuck to each other and can be easily removed however I have a problem to create a good structure of the support using t-glase (PET). It creates not continue structures and often it makes a clot. Somebody prints correctly with t-glase support without problem? Maybe it needs some tuning like increase of an extrusion width what acctually was mentioned on the Taulman3D website http://taulman3d.com/t-glase-features.html ? I was trying to decrease speed of the printing. it helps a bit but still problem exist.
The table at the top of this thread isn’t labled to indicate what the data means.
I’m just about to buy a RBX02 and I want to know what combinations of filament to buy.
I’m guessing the the rows and columns are the choice of two materials to work together?
But is this for dual material solid prints (Good = bonds well) or for use as support (Good = breaks away easily)?
I’m most likely to stick to “safe” materials that won’t mess things up (such as genuine Robox filament) but one of my first print jobs will be in Nylon. I assume the best thing to do is find the cheapest support material that doesn’t mess up the print?
I have tried to print with Taulman Bridge Nylon it works nice till it goes…In my case accuracy of the filament diameter varied between 1.6mm to 1.9mm. I have never finished the print. It was always blocked because it could not pass the bowden tube. I do not know if it was a case only with my spool but I have read that some people had the same problem. Finally I have found a very nice filament made of polyamid (Nylon) Novamid 1030. The quality of this filament is very good.
https://www.nexeo3d.com/en/novamid-1030-natural.html
I found it easy to print and strong. Finishing is much better than Nylon Bridge.
Finally I figured out how to print correctly with PET. I just needed to down temperature till 210C and increase extrusion witdh to 0.6mm for 0.4mm nozzle. Now everything is fine.
I combined together the PET filament with the Novamid 1030. I can say so far it works quite good. It is easy to tear off afterwords. I am still testing…
I hope it will help you a bit.
@kamil1 I expect Taulman would be very embarrassed about such a poorly formed filament and may replace your filament for you. It is certainly worth contacting them.
Are you using the PET as support material for a Nylon model or the other way around?
For official support please visit www.cel-robox.com/support/ and create a ticketHi Pete,
I am using PET Formfutura as a support filament. I can print something in the following days to show you how it works together if you are interested. Just let me know. Below you can find printings with PET and Novamid 1030.
Thanks to this, I would love to try it for my business projects. I can see that has potential helps to my future plans.
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