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30/12/2014 at 10:12 pm #12777
@clicky: I was actually planning to do something very similar and had mentioned it to the CEL guys informally, but then Real Life™ took over. By the time I returned to the idea, you’d managed far more than I would have anyway

I wouldn’t look too deeply into any perceived motives by CEL. When I mentioned it as an idea, there seemed to be a “hey, cool!” reaction, rather than a stern “don’t do that!” It’s just not what they’re concentrating on, so they’re probably just turning a blind eye to it.
I can’t speak for them, of course, but as long as you’re not disassembling their code, doing (or recommending) anything that will damage a Robox, or generally making life more difficult for them, I doubt they’ll have a problem with it.
Their separation of AutoMaker into a client/server architecture is - I’m guessing - to enable the touchscreen-oriented interface thing for Robox that was mentioned on some of the Kickstarter posts.
I personally think it’d be better to make the Robox-side bit (ie. the RPi, or the touchscreen thing) as simple as possible, as you’ll need a powerful client and/or cloud service to do the slicing anyway, so you might as well slim down the “server”.
My reservation about Java for this is purely about the software footprint and hassle of installation. Something like the Espruino Pico (£15, with 384K Flash and ~96K RAM, running Javascript!) is probably enough to act as a proxy/interface for Robox to WiFi and the internet, so having megabytes of Java hanging around seems a bit wasteful.
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Tom Gidden -- Bristol, UK -- New Roboxer? Check out the wiki, and add yourself to the map! http://roboxing.com/user_locations31/12/2014 at 10:19 am #12827Thank you for kind words, but I think my attempts to ‘improve’ AM (gcode preview), produce ‘toolset’ so it can be used outside of AM and/or complaining that for full two months we didn’t have CEL presence on this forums made me being excluded from original pick for beta testers. Just look - all (or almost all?) applied on first day got download link, but me who posted first. Definitively not coincidence.
I struggle to explain it differently which, even believing you when you talk nicely about CEL guys especially having chance to meet Chris in person. But something went wrong and I am a ‘bad’ guy now and I’ll have to deal with it. Maybe I’ve just got it really wrong and Robox was never meant to be open in any degree and my efforts are really undermining their efforts to create closed/completely propitiatory product. (BTW if it is the case and I am let know of it - I’ll stop immediately with all my community, open source efforts)
31/12/2014 at 10:36 am #12832Clicky
open a ticket about your programming and ask,
this way you know.
If they don’t have time to read through the forum, which is perfectly understandable,
then tickets are an acceptable way of communicating.java (EE), JavaFX, HTML, GIS) programmer, database wizard, framework inventor, looking for a job ! http://roboxing.com/wizards03/01/2015 at 11:08 am #12934@clicky: I agree with @pelgrim… just open a ticket or email info@ and ask. Explain (succinctly) what you’ve done, and check whether it’s okay with them. I’d also mention that you’re not trying to get official approval/support from them for your efforts (which could then imply a commitment to supporting such efforts), but just clarifying if they object to it or not. Whether or not you disassembled their code is probably one key point.
There’s no harm in asking, and you wouldn’t be admitting to doing anything you haven’t already admitted to by posting in the forum. You’ve got nothing to hide, so you might as well ask for clarification.
Incidentally, it might be silly or obvious, but have you checked your Junk Mail / Spam folder to see if you did get the beta link after all? It’s conceivable you just got missed off the list accidentally. Even if you were denied intentionally because you’re Public Enemy #1 for some reason, it’d be good to find out for sure.
Tom Gidden -- Bristol, UK -- New Roboxer? Check out the wiki, and add yourself to the map! http://roboxing.com/user_locations03/01/2015 at 2:14 pm #12942@gid, @pelgrim - I am sorry for ranting - I shouldn’t have done so. You are right - I should do so. There are only two reasons I didn’t do it and both quite weak:
1. didn’t want to use CEL’s time on supporting real issues with silly questions (I was even contemplating submitting all feature requests I did here as tickets, too - but decided against for the same reason
2. it seemed silly to me to write to CEL’s support system to tell them that there’s Robox matters happening on web site/forum they’ve created for exactly that purpose. If they are not reading (at least) what is going on here then that’s really strange - so they should be aware of all things happening -
- hence I derived some conclusions that might be slightly on ‘overreaction’ side. And, asking them directly would force answer which, after all is good thing, isn’t it?
And - no - I don’t have spam filters rather than my brain and I hope I didn’t delete anything.
I’ll do so - at least for being sure should I continue investing in Robox or start looking somewhere else to invest my time to…
(which I, in matter of fact did, - put printer aside and returned to my other hobby - one I got printer for in a sense: electronics. I just made i2c servo driver from scratch and it works!
)04/01/2015 at 10:32 am #13001Well, if they replied to your ticket you’d see it in the support web site (robox.freshdesk.com/support/tickets/xxxx), whether you received/deleted emails or not. So if it’s not there, they haven’t replied, period.
Mine is “BEING PROCESSED” since 2 weeks ago. On a 8088 4.77MHz CPU, probably.
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